Initial Reaction to "Sundown"

I enjoyed this episode a lot. It wasn't the best thus far this season, and it definitely wasn't the worst either, but the action in it was just awesome. It also was probably one of the darkest and most disturbing episodes of LOST in a long time (The Man Behind the Curtain always freaked me the hell out.). I strongly disagree with those who are becoming quite frustrated and keep saying that these episodes are "filler" and nothing is really happening. These people need to remember that the reason that LOST drew us all in was its characters. Those wonderful characters lead us to the mythology. That mythology lead us to answers eventually. If I didn't have patience, I would have never kept watching this show. I love LOST for its many questions, its mythology, and the fact that it challenges me to think and to learn and grow as a person, and that is all rooted in the characters. I truly believe that the character and mythology building is going somewhere. Believe me, if it doesn't soon, I will be the first to object. But, the thing is, I've spent six years obsessing over this show. I'm going to let myself enjoy it now. I'm not going to spend what little is left of it complaining. If you want to watch a show that doesn't make you think or leave you wondering, go which HEROES (Sorry to those who still watch it, but it's true.). LOST is still a good show. This is the story that the LOST creators/producers/writers wanted to tell, and I respect that, because for six years they have earned that respect from me. I trust that they will take this where it was meant to go. That's all I have to say about that. Also, Sayid is awesome. Now on with the show...

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Initial Reaction to "What Kate Does"

Apparently I liked this episode more than most people did. I don't know what everyone's problem is. Just because this episode was slow moving, that doesn't make it filler. There were a lot of good things that happened in it. Sure, Kate has gotten annoying. But you have to look at the big picture. This is setup. There were a lot of great character moments in this episode. If you think this episode was so terrible, please go back and watch Stranger In A Strange Land from Season 3, and try to tell me that episode had any purpose whatsoever.

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Season Premiere, Initial Reaction to "LA X (Parts 1 & 2)"

WOW. After about 18 hours, and watching it for a second time, I'm still trying to process last night's episode. You would think that after about Five Seasons of an intricate and confusing Television Show, that it would be a little less confusing and hard to wrap your brain around in its Final Season. Nope. I am more confused now than ever before, which is not to say that I don't like where it is headed or that I don't have some theories on said-heading. The biggest thing that I feel coming out of last night's Season Premiere of LOST is that I am proud to say that I watch this show. Sure, sometimes it makes me want to bang my head against a wall, and sometimes I don't agree with the turns it takes, BUT. This show is fearless, and perhaps the most fearless Television Show to ever grace Network Television. It's not afraid to shock us. It's not afraid to kill of our main characters. Hell, it's not even afraid to make an ISLAND a main character, move it through space and time, create an alternate timeline, and then sink it to the bottom of the ocean. For that, I am proud, because LOST doesn't assume that I am not intelligent enough or that I don't have the patience to be challenged into venturing into the unknown. This is one of the many reasons that LOST is not just a Television Show. It is knowledge. It is infinite possibilities. It's not afraid to take risks, to take a chance, to teach us something about ourselves. And as much as I will be so sad when this show ends, I am glad that it's ending.

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"It only ends once, everything else is just progress."

Questions & Predictions on LOST SEASON SIX!

I can't believe that it's finally here. I've spent over five years religiously, and almost frighteningly, dedicated to this show. I watched from the first moment it was on the screen. Who would've thought that I'd be here right now and that I'd learn so much from a television show. It feels bittersweet right now, as I am glad that it is ending because we'll get the story that was supposed to be told, but I'm also sad. But for right now, I'm going to be excited, and I am sure that when it all comes to an end, I'll spent a lot of time reflecting on the series as a whole.

Here are some of my thoughts, questions and predictions for the FINAL SEASON OF LOST (!!!):

Some of the questions that I ABSOLUTELY NEED answered:

• What is the Smoke Monster? How was it created?
• Why is it afraid of the security fences but can be summoned from inside the barracks?
• How is the island moving through time and space?
• Why is Desmond special? Will he go back to the island?
• Why is Walt special? Will we ever see him again?
• What is Richard Alpert's story? How did he get to the island?
• Why doesn't he age? Why did Jacob do that to him?
• What is the story of the Black Rock? How did it get to the middle of the island?
• What is the sickness? Did Rousseau have it?
• What or who are the whispers?
• Who are Adam and Eve?
• Did the bomb go off? Is it what caused the incident?
• Who is the good guy, Jacob or the Man in Black?
• What are the rules and why must there be a loophole?
• How did Jacob and the Man in Black get to the island?
• When and how was the four-toed statue destroyed?
• Is Aaron special? If so, why?
• What happened to Claire? Did she die?
• Will she ever find out that Jack is her brother?
• Why did Desmond have a flash of Claire getting on a helicopter?
• Will Claire and Aaron ever be reunited?
• Will Claire or Aaron ever get Charlie's ring?
• Will John Locke ever get redemption?
• Is Christian Shephard really dead? Was he on the island before?
• Why did Jacob visit some survivors of Oceanic Flight 815 at an early age?
• Why did he visit some as an adult and some after the crash?
• Why did Jacob touch some of them?
• Why can't women give birth on the island?
• What is the significance of the numbers? Why are they cursed?
• Who built the frozen donkey wheel?
• What is The Temple for? Who created it?
• Who was the first to discover the island?
• Why is the island capable of healing people?
• Why does the island have a pocket of electromagnetism?
• How did The Swan fix that problem and why didn't they just built an automated system?
• Is Sayid dead? Is Juliet dead? Is John Locke really dead?
• Why did it seem as if Jacob was prepared to die? Did he know what was going to happen?
• What is the significance of the hieroglyphs on the island?
• Why did they all have to go back to the island?
• What is the island? Why is it special? Why are they all there?

Things I'm (somewhat) okay with not having an answer for:

• What's Libby's story? Why was she in Santa Rosa? Was she working for Widmore?
• Who and where is Annie? What happened to her?
• What happened to the Hurley bird?
• Why was Ilana covered in bandages and speaking Russian?
• Who killed Nadia? Was it Ben? Did Jacob save Sayid or kill Nadia?
• Was Richard Malkin a fraud or did he know Claire's plane would crash on the island?
• Why do the others always say they're the good guys?
• Why do they kidnap children?
• What happened with Walt when he was with the others?
• What is the magic box?
• How did Anthony Cooper get to the island?
• When did the purge occur? Who was in charge of it?
• Why did Radzinsky build a blast door map if he knew where the stations all were already?
• Did Radzinsky really kill himself?
• Why did Richard say that he watched them all die?
• How did Ben and others get to and from the island so freely and how often did they leave?

Predictions for the Final Season (I know of NO SPOILERS whatsoever.):

• John Locke will get some sort of redemption.
• We will find out who Adam and Eve are.
• We probalby won't find out more about Walt, unfortunately.
• However, I think Walt having dreams about John Locke and what he says to him about him "wearing a suit, and people standing around you, trying to hurt you." are significant.
• I'm almost positive that we will finally get a Richard Alpert backstory.
• (More of a hope than a prediction.) PLEASE let the love triangle be over.
• Desmond will be important. We will learn why he is special and why the rules just don't apply to him.
• I'm starting to lean more and more toward them not crashing on the island, and landing in Los Angeles.
• We will finally find out what the island is and why they are there.
• We will learn more about the bomb going off, if it actually did, and what happens as a result of that.
• I really feel like the whole story is somehow going to come full circle, and I've felt that way since some time late in Season 2. I would not be surprised if the ending to the show was actually the beginning in some form or fashion and we learned that all we've watched was a way of getting everything right and back to the way it's supposed to be somehow. That would not shock me. 
• The two opposing sides have been going on for a long time. There's Jacob and the Man in Black, Benjamin Linus and Charles Widmore, Jack Shephard and John Locke. There will be great significance to this.
• This has all probably been going on for a very long time, and has taken a very long time to get to whatever the end point actually is. All of these people are special because they fix the timeline somehow.
• My biggest hope for the ending is that it will be left with some mystery and it will be something that grows on you over time, becoming more and more significant and mind-blowing as you think about it. I want it to be something that was clearly there all along, but never in your face; something that makes you go back and watch every episode again and you can't believe that you didn't see it.
• I really trust the writers of this show, so regardless of if there will be things I like or not, which I'm sure there will be, I believe it will all work itself out in a satisfying way.
• It will be amazing, scary, awesome, mind-blowing, bittersweet, sad, happy.
• I can't wait!

That all being said, I don't expect every question I have to be answered. I fully expect, and actually hope, that some of the mysteries will be able to live on forever. It will be what keeps people watching and talking about this show for years and years to come, and it is what LOST deserves. I'm sure there will be some things that I am disappointed in, but I have faith and am now, after five years, just along for the journey.

5.15 Follow the Leader

1. Daniel Faraday asks Richard where the bomb is, Richard says to lower his gun, that no one has to get hurt there, Kate and Jack watch from a distance, Daniel says he'll give Richard three seconds, Kate says he's crazy, Jack says what if this is their one chance to put things back where they're supposed to be, Daniel gets shot, Jack wants to go help him, but Kate says they have to go now, they start to leave, but some men on horseback show up, one of them knock Jack out, they say don't move, it's Charles Widmore, he beats the crap out of Jack, he asks Jack who he is. From Lostpedia
2. "What's he doing down there? Jack, he's crazy." Kate "Is he? What if this is why we're here? What if this is our one chance to put things back the way they're supposed to be?" Jack
3. Eloise Hawking looks through Daniel's journal, at the inside over, her note to him, Charles Widmore comes into camp, he asks Eloise what happened, Richard says this man walked into camp and put a gun to his head, that Eloise reacted, Richard asks where he found them, Jack and Kate, Charles says crouched in the bushes, Eloise asks if they came here with this man, Jack says yes, she says to put them in her tent, Charles says to tell him why the DHARMA Initiative seem to have declared war on them, Eloise says they're not from the DHARMA Initiative, Charles asks then where the hell are they from.
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4. "Would you care to tell me, Eloise, why the DHARMA Initiative seems to have declared war on us?" Charles "These people aren't from the DHARMA Initiative, Charles." Eloise "Then where the hell are they from?" Charles
5. Thirty years earlier--a ship in a bottle, Richard, wearing glasses, working on it, someone shows up, says he's here, Richard comes out of his tent to see John Locke walking up with a boar, he says he brought dinner, says hello to Richard, that it's been a while, Richard says it's been three years, asks what happened, where was he, John says he'll explain on the way, that it's going to be night soon, that they have an errand to run, and they don't have a lot to time, he asks Richard what's wrong, he says there's something different about him, John says that he has a purpose now, Ben and Sun show up behind him, Richard asks what's he doing here, Ben, Locke says that he helped him get back.
   
   
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6. "Hello, Richard. It's been a while." Locke "It's--it's been, uh, three years. What happened? What--where--where were you?" Richard
7. "What's wrong?" Locke "Something different about you." Richard "I have a purpose now." Locke
8. Sun asks Ben why did Locke say these were his people, she thought they were his, Ben says that when he left the island, John stepped in, that he's the leader now, Sun asks who's that man he's talking to, Ben says that his name is Richard Alpert, he's a kind of adviser, and he's had that job for a very, very long time.
9.  "Why did Locke say these were his people?" Sun "When I left the Island, John stepped in. He's the leader now." Ben "Who's that man he's talking to?" Sun "His name is Richard Alpert. He's a kind of... adviser. And he has had that job for a very, very long time." Ben
10. Sun goes over to Richard, takes out the photograph of the DHARMA Initiative new recruits, she asks Richard if he was there in 1977, shows him the photo, she says these people, Jack Shephard, Kate Austen, Hugo Reyes, they were there with her husband, Jin Kwon, she asks was he there, does he remember them, Richard says he was there in 1977, and he remembers meeting them very clearly because he watched them all die.
11. "These people... Jack Shephard, Kate Austen, Hugo Reyes. They were here with my husband--Jin Kwon. Were you here? Do you remember them? A--any of them?" Sun "Yes, I was here 30 years ago. And I do. I remember these people. I remember meeting them very clearly, because... I watched them all die." Richard
12. Sun looks at Jin's wedding ring, sits on the beach, Locke comes over, asks her if she wants some water, Sun asks him if he thinks it's true, that they're all dead, Locke says that he doesn't think that they went through all of this for nothing, Richard comes over to them, he says he's ready, Locke asks if he still has that compass he gave him, Richard says it's a little rusty, but she could still find North, Locke tells Ben that he'd like him to join them, Ben asks doesn't he trust him there with his former people, if he's afraid he'll stage a coup, Locke says he's not afraid of anything he can do anymore, Ben says in that case, he'll come, Locke tells Sun to stay there, that they'll be back in a couple of hours, that he's going to see what he can find out, but he says that no matter what happens, she has his word, he tells her if there's a way for her and Jin to be together again, if there's a way to save their people, he'll find it, he leaves. From Lostpedia
13. "You still have that compass I gave you?" Locke "A little rusty, but she can still find north." Richard
14. A hostile throws Jack and Kate in a tent, beats them up, Jack says take it easy on her, he hits Jack, tells him don't talk, the hostile leaves, Kate asks if he's okay, she says that before they were caught, he said that they needed to put things back the way that they were supposed to be, what did he mean by that, Jack says that if they can do with Faraday said, their plane never crashes, that Flight 815 lands in Los Angeles, and everyone they lost since they got there, they'd all be alive, Kate asks and what about them, that they'll just go on living their life because they've never met, Jack says all the misery they've been through, they'd just wipe it clean, Kate says it was not all misery, Jack says enough of it was.
15. "If we can do what Faraday said... [sniffs] our plane never crashes... Flight 815 lands in Los Angeles. And everyone we lost since we got here... [chuckles] they'd all be alive." Jack
16. Eloise Hawking comes in, she says the man she shot, what did he need the bomb for, she needs them to tell her why he needed the bomb, Jack says he doesn't think she'd believe him if he did, Eloise says that when she was 17 years old, she took a young man to the bomb, he proceeded to tell her that if they buried it under the ground, it would all work out splendidly, and when she asked how he could be so sure, he said that he was from the future, and then he disappeared, right in front of her eyes, she says that ten minutes ago she shot that man in the back, and before he died, he told her that he was her son, she says to explain to her and they have her word that she will believe them, she shows Jack Daniel's notebook, the note she wrote on the inside cover, she asks him how is this her handwriting if she doesn't remember writing it, Jack says because she hasn't written it yet, he says that he knows this is hard to understand, but what she just did, it was an accident, and he thinks that there is a way for her to take it all back, he says her son came back here because he'd figured out a way to change things, that he doesn't have to be dead, she doesn't have to have killed him, that if they do what's written in that journal, none of this would have happened, Eloise asks Kate if Jack knows what he's talking about, Kate says that he thinks he does, Eloise says alright, she'll take them to the bomb, but there's just one small issue, they secured it over 20 years ago underground, and since that time, it appears that someone has built an entire village over it, she says however, it appears the two of them have been passing themselves off as them, so coming and going might be relatively simple, Jack tells her that it might be a little more complicated than that. From Lostpedia
17. "When I was 17 years old, I took a young man to the bomb. He proceeded to tell me that if we buried it underground, then things would work out splendidly. When I asked him how he could be so sure... he said that he was from the future. And then he disappeared, right in front of my bloody eyes. Ten minutes ago, I shot that man in the back. And before he... died... he told me that he... [whispers] he said he was my son. Explain to me... and you have my word I will believe you. How is this my handwriting if I don't remember writing it?" Eloise "Because you haven't written it yet. I know this is hard to understand, but... what you just did... it was an accident, and I think that there's a way for you to take it all back." Jack "What?" Eloise "Your son came back here because he had figured out a way to change things. He doesn't have to be dead. You don't have to have killed him. If we do what's written in that journal... [sighs] none of this will have happened." Jack
18. In the security station, they have Sawyer and Juliet handcuffed, Radzinsky asks that woman, Kate, where is she now, Radzinsky punches Sawyer, Horace asks what he's doing, Radzinsky says he's getting answers, Horace says to stop, that's an order, that he's still in charge here, Radzinsky says he was in charge, but if they're going to do what they need to do here to keep them safe, then he doesn't have the stomach to do what's next, Radzinsky tells Phil to help him, Radzinsky says it's his last chance to tell him where she is, Sawyer looks at Kate on the security monitors, Radzinsky says or so help him, he will kill him.
19. Radzinsky beats the crap out of Sawyer, Juliet says stop, Radzinsky asks if he's ready to talk now, Sawyer says no, Radzinsky says to tell him where his girlfriend took the boy, asks if she brought him to the hostiles, if he knows where they are, he beats Sawyer up more, Juliet says to stop, Radzinsky says if she wants him to stop, then tell him what he needs to know, Juliet say please, they've known eachother for three years, they're not bad people, they're not here to hurt them, Sawyer says don't, that whatever she tells him, they're not going to believe them, it's just going to get more people hurt, Horace says there's no point, that he's not going to tell them anything, Phil says that he can make him talk, he hits Juliet, Sawyer gets upset, says he's going to kill him, a man comes in, he tells Radzinsky that there's still no sign of Miles or Jin, but the new recruits from last week, he got their sub's manifest from Amy, there were three last minute add-ons, the two people that shot at him, Shephard and Austen, and one guy they can't track down, he says that he's got to be a part of this, Radzinsky asks who the hell is Hugo Reyes, Phil says he's the fat guy.
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20. "We are not bad people!" Juliet
21. Hurley in the kitchen, hoarding food, he packs it in his backpack, he leaves with his guitar, goes into the jungle, Pierre Chang sees him, follows him, Hurley shows up to meet Jin and Miles, they sent him for food, Miles says they're going to the beach, that they all have guns, the DHARMA Initiative, they can't rescue anyone, the only people they can rescue is themselves, Hurley says they have to do something, that Sawyer would never leave them behind, Pierre Chang comes up to them, they ask what he's doing there, he asks them the same, he says that they're friend Faraday said he was from the future, that he needs to know if he was telling the truth, Hurley says dude, that's ridiculous, Chang asks Hurley what years he was born, Hurley says 1931, Chang asks if he's 46, Hurley says yes, he is, Chang asks so he fought in the Korean war, Hurley says there's no such thing, Chang asks who's the President of the United States, Hurley says alright, he's from the future, Chang asks Miles if it's true then, that he is his son, Miles says yes, it's true, Chang says his friend, the Physicist, he also told him to evacuate everyone off the island, he also said that there was going to be a massive accident at The Swan, he asks if that's true, Miles says he's been right about everything so far, if Faraday said to get people off the island, he'd do it, Chang says well, let's hope he knows what he's doing.
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22. "It's true then? You are my son?" Pierre "Yeah, it's true." Miles
23. "Your friend--the physicist--he also told me to evacuate everyone I could off the Island. He said there was going to be a massive accident at the Swan. Now is that true?" Pierre "He's been right about everything so far. If Faraday said get people off the Island... I'd do it." Miles
24. Charles looks at Daniel's body, he says to tell him something, why is it that this man looks familiar to him, Eloise comes over, says Richard is coming with her, she says to untie them, to give them a moment, she covers Daniel's body, closes his eyes, she tells Charles she's taking them to the bomb, he says what, Richard unties Jack and Kate, Jack asks Richard who is he, Richard says he's Charles Widmore, that he and Eloise are, well love can be complicated, Eloise says alright, let's move out. From Lostpedia
25. "Tell me something. Why is it that this man looks... familiar to me?" Charles
26. "The man you're asking about, Jack, is Charles Widmore. He and Eloise are... well, let's just say love can be complicated." Richard
27. Richard, Ben, John, walking through the jungle with torches, Richard asks John if he's ready to tell him where's he's been the last three years, John asks if he really doesn't know, Richard says he knows that on the day that Ben turned the wheel, they were sitting on a log, there was a bright light, a loud noise, and then he just disappeared, John says well he's just about to see where he disappeared to, and after that, he'd like him to take him to go see Jacob, Ben says that's not how it works, Locke asks if that's true, Richard, if it's going to be a problem, Richard says the he just got back, that there's no rush, Locke says that he's the leader now, right, Richard says right, Locke says good, then he'd like him to take him to Jacob, can he do that, Richard says of course, Locke says to keep moving, they're almost to the plane, Ben asks what plane.
28. "Well, Richard, you're just about to see where I disappeared to. And after we're finished with that, I'd like you to take me to see Jacob." Locke
29. From inside the jungle, they stop, Locke points out the beachcraft from a distance, he says that it was used to smuggle heroin, that it crashed there flying in from Nigeria, Locke tells Richard to listen very carefully, because he's only going to have about three minutes to get this right, Richard asks get what right, Locke says that a man's about to walk out of the jungle, he's been shot in the leg, he gives him a medical pack, says he'll need this to get the bullet out, Richard says he's sorry, Locke says to just listen, this is the important part, he says that he's going to have to tell him to bring everyone who left back to the island, and when he asks how to do that, you tell him he's going to have to die, they see Locke hoping through the jungle with a bullet wound in his leg, Ben asks who is that man, John, he says it's him.
30. "It's a beachcraft--used to smuggle heroin. Flew out of Nigeria, crashed here. All right, Richard, listen very carefully because you're only gonna have about three minutes to get this right." Locke "Get what right?" Richard "A man's about to walk out of the jungle. He's been shot in the leg. [Locke pushes a backpack into Richard's chest. Richard grunts.] You'll need this to get the bullet out." Locke "Uh, I'm sorry, John. I'm not--" Richard "Now just listen. This is the important part. You're gonna need to tell him that he has to bring everyone who left back to the Island. And when he asks how to do that... You tell him he's gonna have to die." Locke
31. "Who is that man, John?" Ben "Me." Locke
32. Locke with bullet wound, he ties seatbelt around his leg, sits by the beachcraft, he hears someone coming, sees a torch, takes out his knife, it's Richard Alpert, he asks what is happening, Richard says what's happening is he's bleeding to death, he kneels in front of Locke to help him with his wound, rips his pants open, says he needs to get the bullet out, Locke says how did he know there was a bullet in his leg, Richard says because he told him there was, Locke says no he didn't, Richard says well, he will. From Lostpedia
33. "Richard? Richard... What is happening?" Locke "What's happening is that you're bleeding to death. Okay, here. [Richard rips open the fabric of Locke's pant leg. Locke grunts.] I need to get the bullet out." Richard "How did you know there was a bullet in my leg, Richard?" Locke "Because you told me there was, John." Richard "No, no. No, I didn't." Locke "Well... you will." Richard
34. In the jungle from a distance, Ben says this must be quite the out of body experience, Locke says it's something like that, Ben says that his timing was impeccable, how did he know when to be there, Locke says that the island told him, didn't the island ever tell him things, Ben says no, and clearly it hasn't told him where Jacob is, or he wouldn't need Richard to show him, Locke says he's never seen him, has he, Ben says what, they see Locke disappear from in front of Richard, Ben asks what just happened, where did he go, Locke says to give Richard his compass back, Richard comes back to them, he asks Locke if he wants the bullet, Locke says to keep it, asks if everything went alright, Richard says the he seemed convinced, especially when he mentioned that he was going to die, Richard says that he's certainly glad that didn't have to happen, Locke says that actually, Richard, it did, he says they'd better get back to camp, they leave.
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35. "Your timing was impeccable, John. How did you know when to be here?" Ben "The Island told me. Didn't it ever tell you things?" Locke
36. "What just happened? Where did you go?" Ben "To give Richard his compass back." Locke
37. "Well, you--you seemed pretty convinced, especially when I said you were gonna die. I'm certainly glad that didn't have to happen." Richard "Actually, Richard, it did." Locke
38. Pierre Chang comes into the Security station, he says they need to evacuate the island of all non-essential personnel, he sees Sawyer and Juliet tied up, bleeding, he asks what's going on here, Radzinsky says isn't he supposed to be at The Swan right now, that they're supposed to break ground in less than 20 hours, Pierre says they're under an immanent threat, if they start drilling, there's a high probability of a cataclysmic accident, Radzinsky says that they are drilling, and on schedule, Pierre talks to Horace, says he's in charge, Radzinsky says that he's not in charge anymore, that this is his decision, and it's been made, he says that they keep working, Sawyer says to put them on the sub, that he's right, it ain't safe, to put the women and children on the sub, and get them all the hell out of there, Sawyer says and if they put him and Juliet on the sub with them, they'll tell them anything they want to know, he asks Juliet if she's okay with that, she says yes, Radzinsky says that if he wants on the sub, then draw him a map, he says he wants to know exactly where the hostiles are, gives him a notebook.
39. "We're under imminent threat. If we start drilling, there's a high probability of a cataclysmic accident." Pierre
40. In the jungle, they stop at a pond, Jack and Kate, Richard, Eloise and Erik, Eloise asks them if they know how to swim, Kate says can't they just go around it, Eloise says they need to go in, that they need to swim under the pond to get to the tunnels, Kate says that she's not going, that she's going to go back and find everyone else, that she can't go any further with Jack, not this time, Jack says that she can't go back now, that they're trying to kill them, Kate says and what is he trying to do, she says bye Jack, Erik points his gun at her, Eloise says that they don't just let anyone go off with their secrets, Kate says she doesn't care about their secrets, that she just wants to leave, she starts to go, they tell her to stop, Jack says to just let her go, but there is gunfire, it seems as if Kate is the one who may have been shot, but it's Sayid who shoots Erik, who was pointing a gun at Kate, Sayid kills him.
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41. "I'm gonna go back and find everyone else. I... [sighs] I can't go any further with you, Jack. Not this time." Kate
42. "We're not in the habit of telling our secrets to strangers, then just letting them saunter off." Eloise
43. Erik is dead, Richard checks his pulse, Richard asks Eloise what they're doing there, that man just killed one of their own people, and she's acting like it doesn't matter, Eloise says if these people are right about what they're about to do, then it won't matter, Richard asks what are they about to do.
44. Sayid talks to Jack, says that he's telling him that he's going to erase the last three years of their lives, Jack says that they can change things, Sayid says he doesn't know if he's aware of it, but he's already changed things, that he killed Benjamin Linus, and they're all still there, Kate says that's because he didn't kill him, that Sawyer and her took him to the others so that they could save him, Sayid asks why she did that, Kate says since when did shooting kids and blowing up hydrogen bombs become okay, Jack says the three of them disappeared off that plane and ended up there, ended up now, so that they could change things, Kate says and if he's wrong, everyone on the island dies, Jack says that he's not wrong, this is it, this is why they're here, this is their destiny, Kate says does he know who he sounds like, because he was crazy too, he said so himself, Jack smiles, he says well maybe he was wrong, Kate says no, he was right, that she's going back to find the rest of their people, because if she can't stop him, then maybe they can, she leaves.
45. "So you're telling me you're going to erase the last three years of our lives?" Sayid "We can change things, Sayid." Jack "I don't know if you're aware of this, but I've already changed things. I killed Benjamin Linus, and we're all still here." Sayid
46. "The three of us disappeared off that plane and ended up here, ended up now, because this is our chance to change things." Jack "And if you're wrong, then everyone on the Island dies. Do you understand that?" Kate "I'm not wrong, Kate. This is it. This is why we're here. [Sighs] This is our destiny." Jack "Do you know who you sound like? Because he was crazy, too, Jack. You said so yourself." Kate "Well, maybe I was wrong." Jack
47. The loudspeaker says the submarine departs in 30 minutes, all evacuees proceed to the dock, Jin, Miles and Hurley watch the Pala Ferry dock from afar, with binoculars, they see Charlotte get out of a van, Pierre take his wife and son out of another van, they hear Pierre tell his wife that he wants her to leave now, Hurley asks Miles why he's yelling at her, Miles says that's the only way he can get her to leave, Hurley says he's sorry, Jin says they better get moving, Miles says wait a minute, he sees a jeep pull up, he says it's Jim and Juliet, asks why the hell they're putting them on the sub, he gives the binoculars to Hurley, he says don't worry, it's going to be okay, that Sawyer always has a plan, right.
    
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48. "Why is he yelling at her, dude?" Hurley "It's the only way he can get her to leave." Miles
49. Sawyer and Juliet walking down the dock, handcuffed, Sawyer says that they'll buy Microsoft, or they'll bet on the Cowboys in the 1978 Superbowl, he says they're going to be rich, he says he's sorry, he should have listened to her when she wanted to get on the sub three years ago, Juliet asks why he talked her out of it, the man says to come on, get in, Sawyer says ladies first, Juliet gets in the sub, Sawyer looks back at the island, he says good riddance, he gets in the sub too.
50. Richard dives down, Jack tells Sayid that if he doesn't see him on the other side, he won't blame him, Eloise says to take a deep breath, and follow Richard under, that there's an opening at the rocks on the far side, Jack dives under as well, he goes through a tunnel, comes up, out of breath, underground, he says that was a lot further than he thought it was, he asks where are they, Richard says the tunnels, Jack asks how they're going to get a bomb out of there, Richard says the same way they brought it in, Jack says he assumes not through the pool, Richard says that it's a 12-foot long, 40,000 pound hydrogen bomb, so no, not through the pool, Eloise comes in through the pool, then, so does Sayid, Jack helps him up, he says that he didn't think he'd come, Sayid says that if this works, he might just save them all, and if it doesn't, at least he'll put them out of their misery, Eloise says alright, let's get started.
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51. "Well, if this works, you might just save us all. And if it doesn't? At least you'll put us out of our misery." Sayid
52. At the beach, Locke, Richard and Ben arrive, the others camp, Richard says he'll have a tent prepared for him, and then they can leave the first thing in the morning, Locke says that he thought they could leave right now, that he's eager, Richard says that he can do the whatever he wants, but maybe the two of them should talk in his tent, Locke asks if this is everyone, who are gathered around him, Locke says if he doesn't mind, he'd like to talk to everyone here, now, Richard says of course, to be his guest, Locke says hello everyone, my name is John Locke, I've been told that for some time, you all have been accepting orders from a man named Jacob, and yet, oddly enough, it seems that no one has actually seen him, he says that now, he's sure that there is a very good reason as to why his existence and whereabouts are a secret, but he just doesn't know what they are, and to be honest, if there's a man telling them what to do, he wants to know who he is, Sun says this man, Jacob, can he tell them how to bring Jin and the rest of their people back there, Locke says absolutely, he says Richard has agreed to show them where they need to go, so he's going to go see Jacob, right now, and he'd like all of them to go with him, they all seem enthused, agree, Richard says that he's starting to think that John Locke is going to be trouble, Ben says why does he think he tried to kill him.
    
    
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53. "Hello, everyone. My name is John Locke. I've been told that... [sighs] for some time, you all have been accepting orders from a man named Jacob. And yet, oddly enough, it seems that no one has actually seen him. Now I'm sure there are very good reasons why his existence and whereabouts are secret. I just don't know what they are. And to be honest with all of you, if there's a man telling us what to do, I want to know who he is." Locke
54. At the sub, people getting on, Juliet and Sawyer handcuffed, the man says they're taking off in two minutes, he'd appreciate it if they didn't cause them any trouble, Sawyer says he wouldn't think of it, Juliet asks Sawyer what they're going to do when they get to Ann Arbor, Sawyer says they're not going to Ann Arbor, Juliet asks what he means, Sawyer says they're not cops, that they don't have authority over them in the real world, so once they dock wherever they dock, they're free, Juliet says the real world, Sawyer smiles, Juliet says she doesn't even know what that means anymore, Sawyer tells her to come here, he says that whatever happens, he has her back, remember, Juliet says I love you, Sawyer says I love you back, someone coming into the sub, Phil says to wait a minute, don't close the hatch, that Horace wants her off the island too, made a deal, caught her coming back into town, it's Kate, they put her on the sub, Juliet and Sawyer feel awkward, Kate says hey, the sub begins to takeoff, leave the island.
    
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55. "These guys ain't cops. They got no authority over us back in the real world. So once we dock, wherever we dock... we're free." Sawyer
56. In the tunnels, Eloise, Richard, Jack and Sayid, Sayid asks Jack that he's sure that this woman's motivation to detonate a hydrogen bomb is only to annihilate the DHARMA Initiative, Jack says yes, but he still trusts her, Sayid says why, Jack says because 30 years from now, she's going to be the one that tells them how to get back to the island, Sayid says and that makes him trust her, Jack nods, they go through the tunnel, Richard leads them to the bomb, Eloise uncovers it, she says well, now what.
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57. "I'm sure it's occurred to you that this woman's motivation in helping us detonate a hydrogen bomb is only to annihilate the DHARMA Initiative." Sayid "Yes, but I still trust her." Jack "Why?" Sayid "Because 30 years from now, she's the one who's gonna tell us how to get back to the Island." Jack
58. Back at the others camp, they leave, begin their trek to Jacob, Locke says it's a beautiful day isn't it, Ben says yes, so far, he tells Locke that Richard had some concerns, Locke asks concerns about what, Ben says that this pilgrimage to Jacob makes him uncomfortable, that he's expressed reservations about whether or not he knows what the hell he's doing, Locke says that he appreciates him bringing this to his attention, Ben says that he knows they've had their differences in the past, but he's here to follow him now, so if he needs Jacob to reunite his people, then he'll do whatever, Locke says that he's not interested in reuniting with is people, Ben asks what he means, that he told Sun, Locke says he knows what he told her, but that's not why they're going to Jacob, Ben asks then why are they going to Jacob, Locke says so he can kill him.
    
    
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59. "Richard had some concerns." Ben "Concerns about what?" Locke "This pilgrimage to Jacob makes him uncomfortable. He's expressed... reservations about whether or not you know what the hell you're doing." Ben "I appreciate you bringing this to my attention, Ben." Locke "I know we've had our differences in the past, John, but I'm here to follow you now. So if you need Jacob to help you reunite your people, then I'll do whatever--" Ben "I'm not interested in being reunited with my people." Locke "What do you mean? You told Sun--" Ben "I know what I told her, but that's not why we're going to Jacob." Locke "Then why are we going to Jacob?" Ben "So I can kill him." Locke

5.12 Dead is Dead

1. A man riding horseback, he rides into a camp, gets off his horse, everyone notices his arrival, they begin gathering around him, he calls out for Richard, asks what have you done Richard, Richard says to calm down, that it has nothing to do with him, the man asks if he actually brought one of them to their Temple, Richard says that he's just a boy, and he was dying, the man says then he should have let him die, Richard says that Jacob wanted it done, he says that the island chooses who the island chooses, and he knows that, the man says yes of course, asks what's his name, the boy. From Lostpedia
2. "Jacob wanted it done. The Island chooses who the Island chooses. You know that." Richard
3. The man goes to see Ben in a tent, sits by him, he says hello Benjamin, Ben asks what happened, the man says that he was injured, Ben asks how, the man says he doesn't remember, Ben asks where is he, the man says he's among friends, that they're going to take care of him, Ben asks about his dad, is he there, the man says that he'll be back to him soon enough, Ben says that he doesn't want to go back, he wants to stay, he wants to be one of them, the man says that just because he's living with them, doesn't mean that he can't be one of them, the man says that he should be dead, but this island saved his life, Ben asks who is he, the man says that his name is Charles Widmore. From Lostpedia
4. "Just because you're living with them doesn't mean you can't be one of us. You should be dead, Benjamin. But this Island... it saved your life." Charles Widmore
5. John Locke wakes Ben up at The Hydra, he says hello Ben, welcome back to the land of the living, Ben says my God, he's alive, Locke says yes he is, Ben says he knew it, knew that this would happen, Locke asks then why is he so surprised to see him, Ben says that it's one thing to believe it, it's another thing to see it, Locke asks then why was he trying to run away to the main island, Ben says that he broke the rules, he came back to the island, he was going to answer for what he's done, he was going back to be judged, Locke says judged by whom, Ben says they don't even have a word for it, but he believes that he calls it the monster. From Lostpedia
6. "My God. You're alive." Ben "Yes, I am." Locke "I knew it. I knew that this would happen." Ben "Then why are you so surprised to see me?" Locke "Because it's one thing to believe it, John. It's another thing to see it." Ben "Then why were you trying to run away to the main Island?" Locke "I broke the rules, John. I came back to the Island. I was going to answer for what I'd done. I was going back... to be judged." Ben "Judged? By whom?" Locke "Well, J-John, we don't even have a word for it, but I believe you call it the Monster." Ben
7. Oh the beach, Hydra island, the survivors of Flight 316, they're gathering some things, a few are packing up a cargo container, Ben asks Ilana what's in the crate, she says nothing, just some stuff they need to get moved, Ben asks if they need a hand, they say thanks, but they have it, Ben says okay, have a great day, Ben drinks from an Ajira Airways water bottle, Caesar approaches him, asks how he's feeling, my friend, Ben says like someone hit him with an oar, but he'll live, they watch Locke, who is looking out at the water, Caesar asks Ben what he makes of him, Ben says that he's not sure, asks what he's told him, Caesar says when he was out cold, he was watching over him, and he said that he killed him, Ben says he killed him, really because he looks fine to him, Ben says he doesn't really remember him from the plane, asks Caesar does he, Caesar says no, Ben says what if he was already here before they crashed, and if he thinks he killed him, then he's insane, then they're dealing with a man who is dangerously deranged, then the question is what are they going to do about it, Caesar says don't worry, shows Ben his gun, says he has his back, introduces himself as Caesar, Ben introduces himself, says pleasure to meet you. From Lostpedia
8. "What if... he was already here, before we crashed? If he thinks I killed him, then he's insane. We may be dealing with a man who's dangerously deranged. Then the question is, what are we gonna do about it?" Ben
9. Young Ben and Ethan watch by from the shore line of the beach, Ethan says he can do it if Ben wants him to, Ben says that Jacob instructed him, to shut up and stay there, Ben goes to a hut, with a gun, knocks over a music box, a baby is whining, Rousseau goes to grab her rifle, Ben says don't do it, she says he's the one who infected them isn't he, speaks French, Ben takes her baby, asks Rousseau if he wants her baby to live, he shoots the ground, he says to be grateful that she's still alive, to listen to him, if she tries to follow him, or if she ever comes looking for him, he'll kill her, and if she wants her child to live, every time she hears whispers, she runs the other way, Ben leaves with baby Alex. From Lostpedia
10. "Be grateful you're still alive. Now you listen to me. If you try to follow me or if you ever come looking for me, I'll kill you. And if you want your child to live, every time you hear whispers, you run the other way." Ben
11. At The Hydra building, in Ben's former office, he's looking for something, opening drawers, he finds a photograph of him and Alex, Locke comes in, asks what's that, Ben says that it's just something sentimental, folds it, puts it in his pocket, Locke says so this is his old office, that he never pictured him leading his people from behind a desk, seems a little corporate, Locke sits at Ben's desk, puts his feet up, Ben asks if there was something that he needed, Locke says that he was hoping they could talk about the elephant in the room, Ben says he's assuming that he's referring to the fact that he killed him, Locke says yeah, Ben says that it was the only way to get him back to the island, along with as many who left as possible, he says you do remember, that's why he left in the first place, to convince them to come back, and he failed, the only way to do that was for him to die, and he understood that, that's why he was about to kill himself, but Ben stopped him, Locke asks if all he had to do was die, then why did he stop him, Ben says that he had critical information that would have died with him, and once he'd given it to him, well he just didn't have time to talk him back into hanging himself, so he took a shortcut, but he's here, he's back, just like the rest of them, he doesn't know where they are exactly yet, but they came, it worked, and that's why he did it, because it was in the best interest of the island, Locke says he was just hoping for an apology, says he's decided to help him, Ben says help him do what, Locke says do what he says he was going to do, be judged, Ben says that's not something he wants to see, Locke says if everything he did was in the best interest of the island, then he's sure the monster will understand, Locke says let's go. From Lostpedia
12. "Well, Ben, I was hoping that you and I could talk about the elephant in the room." Locke "I assume you're referring to the fact that I killed you." Ben "Yeah." Locke "It was the only way to get you back to the Island, along with as many of those who left as possible. You do remember, John--that's why you left in the first place, to convince them to come back? But you failed. And the only way to bring them together was by your death, and you understood that. It's why you were about to kill yourself when I stopped you." Ben "If all I had to do was die, Ben, they why did you stop me?" Locke "You had critical information that would've died with you. And once you'd given it to me... well, I just didn't have time to talk you back into hanging yourself. So, I took a shortcut. And look at you, John. I was right. You're here. You're back. So are the rest of them. I don't know where yet exactly, but they came. It worked. And that's why I did it, because it was in the best interests of the Island." Ben
13. "If everything you've done has been in the best interests of the Island... then I'm sure the Monster will understand." Locke
14. On the beach, they uncover some of the outrigger canoes, Caesar comes up, asks Locke what he's doing, he says he's taking a boat, Caesar says where, Lock says over to the main island, Caesar says he doesn't think so, Locke says are these your boats, Caesar says are they yours, Locke says his name is Caesar, that he was under the impression that they were found here, so he's just going to borrow one, he's happy to leave one for him in case he wants to follow us, Caesar says us, asks Ben if he's going with him, Ben says that he didn't really give him a choice, Caesar says he's sorry, but he's calling the shots here, and he says that he's not taking anything, what he's going to do is sit down and tell him how he knows so much about this island, my friend, Locke hits the sand out of his shoes, says Caesar is in the habit of calling people friend, but he doesn't think he means it, Caesar says to step away from the boat, Locke says no, that he's taking the boat, and he's going to let him, Caesar says he's not taking anything, goes to grab his gun, Ben asks if he's looking for this, takes his gun out, shoots Caesar, tells the others that this gentleman and I are taking a boat, asks if anyone else has a problem with that, they back off, Ben throws the gun to Locke, says to consider that his apology. From Lostpedia
15. "I'm sorry, but I'm calling the shots here, and I say you are not taking anything. What you are going to do is to sit down and tell us how you know so much about this Island, my friend." Caesar
16. " You looking for this? [Ben fires, blowing Caesar away. Struck square in the chest, Caesar flies backwards with a grunt. Ben turns the gun to the other three men.] This gentleman and I are taking a boat. Does anyone else have a problem with that? [Stunned, the other three men shake their heads and back away. Ben throws the shotgun to Locke, who catches it.] Consider that my apology." Ben
17. Locke and Ben paddling the outrigger canoe, they dock at the Pala Ferry, Ben says home sweet home, Locke notices another outrigger there, he says that it looks like they're not the first ones who decided to tie up there, Ben says that would be Sun and Lapidus, he says that he showed them where the boats were, and Sun thanked him by smashing him on the head with a paddle, Locke sits on the dock to put his shoes back on, Locke asks Ben if she's the one that hurt his arm, that he noticed he was favoring it on the way over, Ben says no, someone else hurt his arm, Locke says that he just makes friends everywhere he goes, doesn't he, Ben says that he's found that sometimes friends could be significantly more dangerous that enemies, Locke asks if that's why he shot an unarmed man in the chest, Ben says that the man was unarmed because he'd stolen his gun that he was going to use to kill him, that he couldn't let that happen, he says you're welcome, Locke asks if they're going to his old house, aren't they, Ben says yes, it's the only place he can summon it, the monster, and once it arrives he'll either be forgiven or he won't, Locke says he thinks he's lying, Ben says lying about what, Locke says that he wants to be judged for leaving the island and coming back because it's against the rules, but he doesn't think that Ben cares about rules, Ben asks then what does he want to be judged for, Locke says for killing his daughter, Ben is surprised. From Lostpedia
18. "It's the only place I can summon it... the "monster." Once it arrives, I'll either be forgiven... or I won't." Ben "I think you're lying." Locke "Lying about what?" Ben "That you want to be judged for leaving the Island and coming back because it's against the rules. I don't think you care about rules." Locke "Then what do I want to be judged for, John?" Ben "For killing your daughter." Locke
19. Ben and Ethan with Alex, they get back to their camp, Charles Widmore asks, well did he do it, Ben says they had a complication, Widmore says he's sorry, asks is that a baby, he says that his orders were to exterminate that woman, Ben says why, she's not a threat to them, she's insane, besides, he didn't tell him that she had a child, asks what was it he was supposed to do, Widmore says kill it, Ben says it's not an it, it's a child, Widmore says he might find it difficult to understand, but that every decision he's made has been about protecting this island, Ben says is killing the baby what Jacob wants, Ben says then here she is, hands to Alex over to Widmore, says you do it, Widmore scoffs at him, walks away, Ben holds Alex, Richard watches.
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20. "You might find this difficult to understand, Benjamin... every decision I've made has been about protecting this Island." Widmore "Is killing this baby what Jacob wants?" Ben
21. At the barracks, the Processing Center sign dangles from a building, Locke and Ben arrive, Locke says who's idea was it to move into these houses, Ben says excuse him, Locke says that his people were living in the jungle, then after they murdered the DHARMA folk, they relocated here, he just wanted to know if it was his idea, Ben asks if he disapproves, Locke says that it just doesn't seem like something the island would want, Ben says that he wouldn't have the first idea what this island wants, Locke asks if he's sure about that, they see a light go on inside a house, Locke says that was his house, Ben says yes, and that was Alex's room, Locke says then he supposes he better go over there and check it out, Ben goes into his house, which is dark, on the table, plates with old food, RISK game, Ben goes to the bedroom, opens the door, Sun is inside, she's startled, Frank comes in, asks Ben what he's doing there, Ben says that it used to be his house, he saw a light turned on, asks what the two of them are doing there, Frank shows Ben the DHARMA Initiative NEW RECRUITS photograph, Sun says that was taken in 1977, Ben asks are you trying to tell me that your friends were in the DHARMA Initiative, Sun asks he doesn't know about this, Ben says of course he didn't, asks where they got the photograph, Frank says they met some crazy old man outside, Sun says he said his name was Christian, that he told them to go in there and wait, Ben asks wait for what, Sun says that he said if she ever wanted to see her husband again, she had to wait there for John Locke, Franks says but considering he's dead, they're going to hold their breath, Ben says well he might want to look outside, which they do, and Locke is there, waiting, he waves at them. From Lostpedia
22. "Well, your people were living in the jungle. And then after you murdered the DHARMA folk, you relocated here. I just wondered if it was your idea." Locke "Do you disapprove, John?" Ben "It just doesn't seem like something the Island would want." Locke "You don't have the first idea what this Island wants." Ben "Are you sure about that?" Locke
23. "He said if I ever wanted to see my husband again, I had to wait here for John Locke." Sun "But considering he's dead, we ain't holding our breath." Frank "Well, you might want to look outside." Ben
24. Locke inside, they all look at him, Sun says what he's saying, it's impossible, Locke says but here he is, he doesn't know how, doesn't know why, but he's sure there's a very good reason for it, Frank says as long as the dead guy says there's a reason, he guesses everything is going to be peachy, and forget about the fact that the rest of their people are supposedly 30 years ago, now the only ones there to help them are a murderer and a guy that can't seem to remember how he got out of a coffin, he tells Sun, please, let's just go back to plane and see if he can fix the radio and get some help, Locke says if she leaves with him, she'll never find her husband again, that he's all the help she needs, Sun asks if he's saying he knows how to find them, how to find Jin, Locke says that he has some ideas, Frank says he's sorry to say, but he's leaving with or without her, Sun says that if there's any chance of finding her husband, then she has to stay, Frank says alright, for God's sake, to watch her back, he leaves, Sun says alright, how do they find Jin, Locke says that Ben has something to do first, isn't that right Ben, Ben says yes John that's right, Locke says he better get to it then.
25. "What you're saying, it's... impossible." Sun "But here I am. I don't know how, I don't know why, but I'm sure there's a very good reason for it." Locke
26. Ben pulls out his bookcase, goes into the secret room, moves the clothes rack, opens the secret door, pushes the hieroglyphs door open, lights a match, then a lantern, he goes down a dark staircase, crawls through a tunnel, into a room, there is a hole filled with water, Ben unclogs the hole, flushes the water down the hole, he says that he'll be outside, he leaves the underground room.
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27. Ben pushing Alex on a swing, Richard says any higher, she'll fly right off the island, he tells Ben the sub is about to leave, Richard says he doesn't have to see him off, but Ben says yes, he does.
28. At the Pala Ferry, the sub is docked, Widmore is in handcuffs, being escorted by two men, Ben says he's came to say goodbye, Widmore says no he didn't, that he came to gloat, Ben says don't act as if he wanted this, that he brought this on himself, Widmore asks if he's certain that he wants to do this, Ben says that he left the island regularly, that he had a daughter with an outsider, that he broke the rules, Widmore asks and what makes him think that he deserves to take what's his, Ben says because he won't be selfish, he'll sacrifice anything to protect the island, Widmore says that he wouldn't sacrifice Alex, Ben says that he's the one that wanted her dead, not the island, Widmore says that he hopes he's right, because if he isn't, and it is the island that wants her dead, she'll be dead, and he'll be standing where he is now, he'll be the one being banished, and then he'll finally realize that he cannot fight the inevitable, he says I'll be seeing you boy, leaves on the sub. From Lostpedia
29. "You left the Island regularly. You had a daughter with an outsider. You broke the rules, Charles." Ben "And what makes you think you deserve to take what's mine?" Widmore "Because I won't be selfish. Because I'll sacrifice anything to protect this Island." Ben "You wouldn't sacrifice Alex." Widmore "You're the one who wanted her dead, Charles, not the Island." Ben "I hope you're right, Benjamin, because if you aren't, and it is the Island that wants her dead, she'll be dead. And one day, you'll be standing where I'm standing now. You'll be the one being banished, and then you'll finally realize that you cannot fight the inevitable. I'll be seeing you, boy." Ben 
30. At Ben's house, Sun waits outside, Ben comes out, asks where did John go, Sun says that he said he had something to do, Ben asks did he say what it was, Sun says no, she didn't ask, Sun says that Jack must've lied, Ben says excuse me, Sun says about Locke being dead, that's the only explanation, Ben says that Jack didn't lie, John was dead, Sun says just because he was in a coffin, doesn't mean that he couldn't have faked his death, Ben says to trust him, he's sure, Sun says so he knew this would happen to Locke if they brought him back here, Ben says he had no idea it would happen, that he's seen the island do miraculous things, he's seen it heal the sick, but never once has it done anything like this, dead is dead, you don't get to come back from that, not even here, so the fact that John Locke is walking around this island, scares the living hell out of him, they hear something rustling around in the jungle, Ben says she may want to go inside, Sun asks why, Ben says because what's about to come out of that jungle, is something that he can't control, Sun gets up, they hear something else, and it's Locke who comes out of the jungle, he asks any luck, Ben says it hasn't shown up yet, Locke says last time they didn't have to wait this long, Ben says it's not a train, it doesn't run on a schedule, Locke says if it's not going to go to them, then he guesses they'll have to go to it, Ben says that it doesn't work that way, he only knows how to summon it, he doesn't know where it actually is, Locke says that he does.
31. "So you knew this would happen to Locke if we brought him back here?" Sun "Sun, I had no idea it would happen. I've seen this Island do miraculous things. I've seen it heal the sick, but never once has it done anything like this. Dead is dead. You don't get to come back from that, not even here. So the fact that John Locke is walking around this Island... scares the living hell out of me." Ben
32. "Well, if it's not gonna come to us, then... I suppose we'll have to go to it." Locke "It doesn't work that way. I only know how to summon it. I don't know where it actually is." Ben "I do." Locke
33. Locke and Sun, Locke says that it's weird for him too, Sun says excuse me, Locke says he realizes how strange this all is, him here, but I assures you, Sun, he's the same man he's always been, Ben comes out, Locke asks are you ready, Ben says to lead the way.
34. "It's weird for me, too." Locke "Excuse me?" Sun "I realize how strange this all is--me, here. But I assure you, Sun, I'm the same man I've always been. Are you ready?" Locke "Lead the way." Ben
35. At the Long Beach Marina, Ben calls Charles Widmore, he asks how he got this number, Ben says that it doesn't matter, but what matters is, he's going back to the island today, Widmore says that the island won't let him come back, to trust him, he says that he spent almost 20 years trying to get back to the island, Ben says well, where he failed, he's going to succeed, but just as soon as he does one thing, Widmore asks and what's that, Ben says kill your daughter, he says that, in fact, he's looking at Our Mutual Friend right now, Widmore says he doesn't know what he's talking about, Ben says it's the name of the boat that Penny is on, Widmore says don't you dare, Ben says goodbye, Charles. From Lostpedia
36. "The Island won't let you come back, trust me. I've spent almost 20 years trying to return." Widmore "Well, Charles, where you failed, I'm going to succeed... just as soon as I do one thing." Ben "And what's that, Benjamin?" Widmore "Kill your daughter. In fact, I'm looking at Our Mutual Friend right now." Ben
37. Walking through jungle, Ben says may I ask you question, Locke says shoot, Ben says how is it that you know where you're going, Locke says that he just does, Ben asks how does that work exactly, the knowing, did it come upon gradually, or did he wake up one morning suddenly understanding the mysteries of the universe, Locke asks he doesn't like this, does he, Ben says what, Locke says having to ask questions that he doesn't know the answer to, blindly following someone in the hopes that they'll lead you to whatever you're looking for, Ben says no, he doesn't like it at all, Locke says well, now he knows what it was like to be him, Sun says they should keep moving, Locke says yes they should, Ben says thinks he knows where they're going now, it's the same place they brought him as a child, it's where the island healed him, Locke says well, let's hope it's as generous this time around, they arrive at The Temple, Sun asks what is it, Ben says it's the wall around their Temple, Ben says about a half mile from here, they built this wall to keep people like the two of them from ever seeing it, Ben goes to go inside, Locke says they're not going into their Temple, they're going under it, Ben is surprised, Locke says after you, Ben tells Sun that he needs to ask a favor of her, says if she can ever get off this island, to find Desmond Hume for him, tell him he said he was sorry, Sun asks sorry for what, Ben says he'll know, goes into The Temple. From Lostpedia
38. "May I ask you a question, John?" Ben "Shoot." Locke "How is it that you know where you're going?" Ben "I just know." Locke "I mean, how does that work, exactly?" Ben "How does what work?" Locke "The knowing. I mean, did it come upon you gradually, or did you wake up one morning suddenly understanding the mysteries of the universe?" Ben "You don't like this, do you?" Locke "What?" Ben "Having to ask questions that you don't know the answers to, blindly following someone in the hopes that they'll lead you to whatever it is you're looking for." Locke "No, John, I don't like it at all." Ben "Well, now you know what it was like to be me." Locke
39. "I think I know where we're going now, John. It's the same place they brought me as a child. It's where the Island healed me. About a half mile from here. We built this wall to keep people like the two of you from ever seeing it." Ben
40. "I need to ask a favor of you, sun. If you can ever get off this Island, find Desmond Hume for me. Tell him I said I was sorry." Ben
41. Ben at the Long Beach Marina, he walks down the dock, sees Penny on Our Mutual Friend, takes his gun out, but Desmond is unloading groceries form the car behind Ben, and sees him, he says hey what are you doing here, Ben turns around, and shoots him, Desmond, Penny calls, Ben points his gun at her, he says don't move, not another word, he says hello Penelope, my name is Benjamin Linus, that he's sorry she's caught up in this, but her father, Penny says that her father and her have absolutely no relationship whatsoever, Ben says your father is a really terrible human being, and that he's responsible for the killing of his daughter, that's why he's there, little Charlie calls mommy, Penny yells for him to go back inside, she begs Ben, says please, whatever you do, don't hurt my son, Charlie comes out, Penny yells for Charlie to go inside, Ben sees little Charlie, and begins to lower his gun, but Desmond runs up from behind and tackles him, beats the crap out of him, throws him in the water, Ben is a bloody mess.
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42. "Your father is a really terrible human being. He's responsible for the killing of my daughter. That's why I'm here." Ben
43. On the beach, Frank Lapidus returns to The Hydra island, a man runs up to him on the beach, says Captain Lapidus, you're back, thank God, he tells Frank that they found guns, Frank what are you talking about, who found guns, the man says Ilana and three of the others, they said they were in charge now, Frank says where are they, man looks over there, Frank approaches them, Ilana points a gun at him, Frank asks what's going on, Ilana asks Frank what lies in the shadow of the statue, Frank asks what, Bram says to answer the question, she asks again, Frank is confused, he says he has no idea, Ilana cocks him with her rifle, tells Bram to get everyone else, tell them it's time, and tie him up, he's coming with us. From Lostpedia
44. "What lies in the shadow of the statue?" Ilana
45. Locke lights torches inside The Temple, Ben takes one, they walk through, which looks like ancient ruins, Ben says you know you were right, Locke asks about what, Ben says why he needs to judged, he says that when Charles Widmore's men came, they gave him a choice, to leave with them or let his daughter die, all he had to do was walk out of the house and go with them, but he didn't do it, so he was right, John, he did kill Alex, and now he has to answer for that, Ben says that he appreciates him showing the way, but he thinks he can take it from here, Locke says you got it, Ben walks, says he'll meet him outside, if he lives, but Ben falls down a hole, Locke asks Ben, are you alright, Ben says never better, Locke says to hang on, that he'll go find something to get him out of there, Ben says John wait, but he leaves. From Lostpedia
46. "You know, you were right." Ben "About what?" Locke "Why I need to be judged. When Charles Widmore's men came, they gave me a choice. Either leave the Island or let my daughter die. All I had to do was walk out of the house and go with them. But I didn't do it. So you were right. John, I did kill Alex. And now I have to answer for that. I appreciate you showing me the way, but I think I can take it from here." Ben
47. Ben walks around an ancient ruin, inside the room, with hieroglyphs on the walls, pillars covered in hieroglyphs, he studies them, a hieroglyph of the statue is on the wall. From Lostpedia
48. Ben notices a Cerebus vent, his torch goes out, he hears the Smoke Monster sound, it begins to come out of the vents, gathers around Ben, he sees his life flash before him, he sees himself talking to Charles Widmore about Rousseau and Alex, didn't tell him she had a child, what was he supposed to do, Widmore says to kill it, Ben says that it's not an it, this is a child, he sees himself pushing Alex on swing, Alex says I hate you, I hate your guts, I wish you were dead, Alex pleading for her life, she says these people, you said they were dangerous, more dangerous than you, dad, they're serious, they killed Karl, and my mother, please dad, she cries, help me, Ben says she's not my daughter, she means nothing to me, so if you want to kill her, go ahead, Keamy shoots her, Ben cries, Smokey goes back into the vents. From Lostpedia
49. Ben's torch goes back on, he hears someone say daddy, Alex appears, she says hi dad, Ben says oh Alex, I'm so so sorry, it was all his fault, Alex smiles, says she knows, but she chokes Ben, pushes him against a pillar, she says listen to me you bastard, I know that you're already planning to kill John again, and I want you to know that if you so much as touch him, I will hunt you down and destroy you, she says you will listen to every word John Locke says and you will follow his every order, do you understand, Ben nods, he says say it, say you'll follow him, Ben says yes I will, I'll follow him I swear, Alex pushes him, Ben is terrified, but she disappears, Ben grabs his torch, Locke calls him from the hole above, throws a vine down the hole, Ben comes over, Locke asks what happened, Ben says that it let him live.
    
    
    
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50. "Ohh, Alex. I'm so, so sorry. It was all my fault." Ben "I know. Listen to me, you bastard! I know that you're already planning to kill John again, and I want you to know that if you so much as touch him, I will hunt you down and destroy you. You will listen to every word John Locke says, and you will follow his every order. Do you understand? [Ben nods, fear-stricken.] Say it! Say you'll follow him." Alex "Yes, I will. I'll follow him. I swear." Ben
51. "What happened?" Locke "It let me live." Ben