5.05 This Place is Death
- At the Long Beach Marina, Sun gets a phone call, it's her mother, she asks where Sun is, she says she's still in Los Angeles, finishing up, she'll be on a plane tomorrow, Ji Yeon wants to say hello, Sun says she met a new friend for her in America, his name is Aaron, Ji Yeon says to come home, she misses her, Sun says soon, she loves her, goodbye.
- Sun is watching Jack, Ben, Kate talk, she gets out of car with her gun, Kate tells Ben to leave her and her son alone, Ben says that it's not her son, Sun walks up with her gun, points it at Ben, she tells Kate to move away, Kate is frightened, she asks where Aaron is, Sun says he's in the car, Jack says that he knows Sun thinks she's helping, Sun says if it wasn't for Ben, Jin would still be alive, Ben says he didn't kill her husband, that no one did, because he's not dead, Ben says Jin is still alive and he can prove it. From Lostpedia
- Jin on the beach, with Danielle Rousseau's science team, Montand listening to the transmission of the numbers on his radio, Jin asks Rousseau where she's from, she says they sailed from Tahiti, Jin asks when, she says November 15, Jin says no, what year, she says 1988, she asks why, Jin says he needs to go find his camp, they ask if he was on the island before, Jin asks if they saw a helicopter, Montand says that first it was a boat, then a helicopter, the next thing he'll be talking about a submarine, says he knows which way to go, they're looking for an antenna, they ask Jin if there's an antenna on the island, they show him the radio, antenna, ask him if there's a radio tower, Jin says he must find his camp, because maybe the helicopter went there, Rousseau asks if he knows where his camp is from there, Jin says no, but he does from the radio tower, Rousseau says to go with them to the tower, then find his camp, Jin watches Robert kiss Danielle, Rousseau asks Jin if he's ready to go, who he's hoping to find, Jin says his wife. From Lostpedia
- Walking through the jungle, Montand is listening to transmission still, Rousseau experiences some pain, Robert says that it was a bad idea, she's seven months pregnant, Rousseau says she just gave her a little kick, that it's a girl, Robert says Alexander is going to be a boy, Rousseau says Alexandra is a girl, Robert says to get some water, but Nadine has disappeared, they start to look for her, but Jin hears something, he tells Robert that it's a monster.
- Rousseau says to find Nadine, they want to look, but Jin says they must go, but they go looking for her anyway, calling Nadine, they find her pack, Robert says to spread out, Brennan, Lacombe, the monster comes toward them, spits Nadine out, Jin says to run, Montand gets approached by the smoke monster, it drags him through the jungle, to The Temple, Robert and Jin grab him, it pulls him underneath, rips off his arm, Robert asks what that thing was, they hear Montand yelling for help from underneath The Temple, Robert says they have to go in and get him, Montand says he's hurt, is calling for their help, Robert says they do not leave anyone behind, they go under, but not Jin and Rousseau, a flash begins to happen, Rousseau asks Jin what's wrong, but Jin disappears in another flash.
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- After the flash happens, Jin is now alone, everyone from Rousseau's science team is gone, he's still at The Temple, there are hieroglyphs on it, he sees the opening underneath, Montand's decaying arm, he leaves, goes through jungle, drinks from a leaf, he sees a pillar of smoke in the distance, he goes toward it.
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- At the beach, scattered with things, a fading fire, a music box is playing, bag, bugs, violin, explosives, hut, two bodies that have been laid to rest, Jin hears someone shouting, Rousseau holding rifle, pointing it at Robert, he tells her to stop, she says that thing changed him, that he's sick, the monster made him sick, Robert says that it's a security system, to put down the gun, he tells Danielle that he loves her, that he doesn't want anything to happen to her, or the baby, she begins to raise her gun, but as soon as she does, he raises his gun, he pulls the trigger to shoot her but the firing pin is missing, she raises her gun and shoots him in the head, she sees Jin on the shore, watching, she says that he disappeared, that he's sick too, she shoots at him, Jin runs into the jungle, another flash happens, he falls down a hill, but Jin still hears someone cocking a gun, then Sawyer's voice, they reunite, Sawyer says he thought Jin was on the boat, thought he was dead, Jin says he was in the water, he asks where Sun is.
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- Miles asks where Jin came from, Daniel says the blast must've thrown him in the water, he's been moving with every flash just like them, Sawyer tells Jin that every time the sky lights up, they move through time, Jin doesn't understand, Jin tells Charlotte to translate, but Sawyer thinks he's talking to Miles, who says Jin is Korean, he's from Encino, Jin talks to Charlotte, she says he wants to know how they're sure his wife is off the island, Sawyer and Miles are stunned that Charlotte speaks Korean, Locke says he's sure, but none of it will matter if they don't make it to The Orchid, Charlotte tells Jin, he asks what The Orchid is, she tells Jin that it's a way off the island, Locke is planing to leave and bring back all his friends, including his wife, that it's the only way to stop the flashes, Jin asks Locke why he would bring Sun back, Locke says because she never should have left.
- Sun pointing her gun at Ben, says she's spent the last three years thinking, believing that he was dead, Ben says he has proof, if she wants to see it, he'll show her how he knows Jin is alive, Ben says there's someone in Los Angeles, he can take her to them, show her proof, they're the same person that's going to show them how to get back to the island, Kate is putting Aaron in her car, overhears them talking, she gets mad, says that's why Jack was pretending to care about Aaron, Jack says no, Sayid says he doesn't want any part of it, that if he sees Jack or Ben again, it will be extremely unpleasant for all of them, Ben tells Sun to give him thirty minutes, they can be there that fast, and she'll have her proof, or she can shoot him and never know.
- Walking through jungle, Jin asks Locke how he will leave the island, says that he'll go with him, Locke says it doesn't work that way, that it's a one man job, but he promises he'll bring Sun back.
- Daniel asks Charlotte if she's okay, if she wants to take a break, if she speaks any other languages, she says just Klingon, Charlotte asks Daniel if what they're doing is going to work, Daniel says that it does make sense, that if all this started at The Orchid, then it's where all of it should stop, but as far as bringing the people that left the island back in order to stop these temporal shifts, that's where we leave science behind, Charlotte gets dizzy, another flash starts to happen, it's dark now, and another flash happens again, they're all in pain because the flashes are happening so close together, it's light out again, Charlotte passes out, nosebleed, Sawyer points out that Juliet has a bloody nose, she says he does too, Daniel asks if Charlotte can hear him, she starts talking to Jin in Korean, in a really frightening voice, then speaking English, she says not to let them bring her back, no matter what, that this place is death. From Lostpedia
- "It does make empirical sense that if this started at The Orchid, then that's where it's going to stop. But, as far as bringing back the people who left in order to stop these temporal shifts? That's where we leave science behind." Daniel
- "Don't let them bring her back. No matter what--don't let them bring her back! This place is death!" Charlotte
- In the Canton-Rainer van, Sun and Jack, Ben driving, Sun says that Ben said they'd be there in thirty minutes, Ben didn't account for traffic, Jack tells Sun that he's sorry, Sun asks for what, Jack says for leaving Jin behind, says when they landed the chopper on the boat, everything was happening so fast, he knew Jin was down below, but they should've waited for him, Sun asks why he's telling her this now, that if she finds out Ben is lying about her husband, he's going to ask her not to kill him, Jack says that after what Ben just did to Kate, if she doesn't, he will, Ben gets mad, pulls the van over, he says that what he's doing is helping them, that if they had any idea what he's done to keep them safe, to keep their friends safe, they'd never stop thanking him, he says that if Sun wants to shoot him, then shoot him, but get on with it, he asks what it's going to be, Sun says to drive.
- Charlotte asks why daddy can't come with them, asks Daniel if he knows what her mother would say about marrying an American, says she knows more about Carthage than Hannibal, Sawyer asks what the hell she's talking about, Locke says they have to get moving, Daniel says they need to carry Charlotte, Locke says that she'll hold them up, Dan says they can't just leave her, Sawyer says that the flashes are getting closer together, that they'll come back for her, Daniel says no, that he's not going to leave her behind, Charlotte says to go without her, another flash happens, Locke says that they have to move now, Charlotte tells Dan to go, she says to turn it up, that she loves Geronimo Jackson, Juliet says they're running out of time, Dan says for them to go, that he'll stay with her, Sawyer asks if they don't know when the hell they are, what happens if The Orchid isn't around anymore, Charlotte says to look for the well, then they'll find it, they leave.
- "Let me ask you something, John. If we don’t even know when the hell we are, what happens if the Orchid ain’t around anymore?" Sawyer "Look for the well. You’ll find it at the well." Charlotte
- Walking through the jungle, they find a partial Orchid building, Locke says they're here, Juliet says what are the odds that they'd end up in the same time is that thing, another flash happens, and it's gone, Sawyer says she just had to say something, but the well that Charlotte mentioned is there, a rope going down, Miles asks how the hell Charlotte knew that it was there.
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- Daniel and Charlotte in the jungle, she tells him she's been there before, Dan asks, she says she grew up there, on the island, and there was the DHARMA Initiative, then she moved away with her mom and never saw her dad again, and when she got back to England, she would ask her mom about this place, but she would say that it wasn't real, and that she made it up, she says that's why she became an Anthropologist, to find this island again, that's what she's been searching for her whole life, Dan asks why she's telling him that, she says she remembers something now, that when she was little, living there, there was this man, this crazy man, and he really scared her, he told her that she had to leave the island and never ever come back, he told her that if she came back, she would die, Dan says he doesn't understand, Charlotte says she thinks that man was him.
- "I’ve been here before. I grew up here...on the island. And there was this thing...this DHARMA Initiative. And then I moved away with my mum. Just my mum, and I never saw my dad again. And then when I got back to England, I would...I would ask my mum about this place, yeah? But she would say that it wasn’t real, and that I’d made it up. That’s why I became an anthropologist. To find this island again. It’s what I’ve been searching for my whole life." Charlotte "Charlotte, why are you telling me this?" Daniel "Because I remember something now. When I was little, living here, there was this man, a crazy man, he really scared me. And he told me that I had to leave the island and never ever come back. He told me that if I came back I would die." Charlotte "Charlotte, I don’t understand." Daniel "Daniel--I think that man was you." Charlotte
- At the well, Locke says he's going down, Sawyer asks what he's hoping to find, Locke says that it's a way off the island, says goodbye to James, Juliet, Miles, says he'll see them when he gets back, Jin tells Locke to stop, he says don't bring Sun back, Locke says he has to bring them all back, that's how it works, Jin asks how he knows, Locke says he just knows, Jin says he'll cut the rope going down the well, that the island is bad, he tells Locke to promise he won't bring Sun back, that he won't bring his baby to the island, Locke says he has his word, Jin says to promise, Locke says he promises, says he won't go to Sun, but says she might find him, if she does, what does he tell her, Jin says tell her he's dead, say he washed up on the shore, that he buried him, he gives Locke his wedding ring, as proof, Locke says okay, that he'll be back as soon as he can, Locke begins to go down the well, Sawyer asks if he's sure he doesn't want them to lower him, Locke says where would the fun in that be, Juliet says if whatever he's attempting to do works, thank you, Locke says you're welcome, he begins to lower himself down the rope, gets about halfway, and another flash starts to happen, Sawyer says to hold on, he takes the rope, Locke drops all the way down, falls down the well, hurts his leg, has a compound fracture, it's digusting.
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- After the flash happens, Sawyer is still holding the rope, Miles says that he thinks he can let go now, because the well is completely gone, Sawyer begins to dig with his hands, he asks the others for help, but Juliet says they can't help him, there's nothing that they can do. From Lostpedia
- Dan and Charlotte in the jungle, Dan tells her to stay with him, that she's going to be fine, everything will be okay, he says he has a plan, that back at the hatch, he talked to Desmond, told him to find his mother, that she can help them, Charlotte asks how his mother can help them, she coughs, smiles, says she's not allowed to have chocolate before dinner, Charlotte dies. From Lostpedia
- Locke calls for James from underground, asks if he can hear him, can anyone hear him, he hears someone down there, asks who's there, someone comes walking out, it's Christian Shephard, he says hello John, Locke asks what he's doing down there, he says that he's there to help John the rest of the way, holding a lantern, Locke says he doesn't understand, Christian says that he came to see him in the cabin, asked him how to save the island, and he told him he had to move it, he said that he had to move it, Locke says Ben said he had to do it, told him to stay there and lead his people, Christian asks since when did listening to him get him anywhere worth a damn, says the good news is that he's there now, he asks if he's ready to go, Locke says he doesn't know what to do once he gets there, Christian says that there's a woman living in Los Angeles, that once he gets all of his friends together, and it must be all of them, once he's persuaded them to join him, this woman will tell him exactly how to come back, Locke asks who she is, Christian says that her name is Eloise Hawking, Locke asks what if he can only convince some of them to come back, Christian says that he believes in John, says that he can do this, Locke says that Richard said he was going to die, Christian says that he supposes that's why they call is sacrifice, Locke says alright, he's ready, Christian says good, now on the other side of the column, there's a wheel that slipped off its axis, all he has to do is give it a little push, Locke asks for help, but Christian says he can't, Locke gets up by himself, sees the frozen donkey wheel, flashing light, Christian says good luck, Locke pushes the wheel, another flash happens, Christian says to say hello to his son, Locke asks who his son is.
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- "There's a woman living in Los Angeles. Now once you get all your friends together--and it must be all of them, every one who left--and once you've persuaded them to join you, this woman will tell you exactly how to come back. Her name is Eloise Hawking." Christian "What if I can only convince some of them to come back?" Locke "I believe in you, John. You can do this." Christian "Richard said I was going to die." Locke "Well, I suppose that's why they call it sacrifice." Christian
- "Good luck, John. Say hello to my son." Christian Shephard
- Sun, Jack and Ben get to the church, The Lamp Post, they get out of the van, Ben gives Sun Jin's wedding ring, Sun asks how he got it, Ben says that John gave it to him, Jack says he said Locke never went to see him, Ben says that's true, but he went to see John, says Jin gave it to Locke before he left the island, Sun asks why Locke didn't tell her that himself, Ben says he doesn't know, maybe he died before he had the chance to, he says he's sorry he had to bring her there before he gave it to her, but all those people back on the island, Jin included, need their help, there is a woman in the church, and she can tell them how to get back to her husband, he says that they're running out of time, that he needs her to decide right now, Ben asks if she'll come with him, Sun says yes, Desmond shows up, asks what they're doing there, Ben says he assumes the same thing he is, Desmond asks if he's looking for Faraday's mother too, Ben seems confused, they go into church, Eloise Hawking is there, Desmond sees her, the same woman that told him his purpose was to go to the island, she says hello to Benjamin, says she thought she said all of them, Ben says that this is all he could get on short notice, she says she supposes it will have to do for now, let's get started.
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Questions:
- Why is Hurley's voice heard on the transmission of the numbers?
- How does Jin know how to get to the radio tower?
- Why would a woman who is seven months pregnant go on a science expedition?
- How did Nadine disappear without anyone noticing?
- Why did the Smoke Monster attack Rousseau's science team?
- Did Montand die when he was sucked underneath The Temple? Was he a manifestation of the Smoke Monster?
- Why would a science team be armed as they were?
- What happened to those who went beneath The Temple?
- Why would The Temple make them sick?
- What is the meaning of the hieroglyphs on The Temple walls?
- How did Robert know that the Smoke Monster was a secuirty system and was protecting The Temple?
- Why would The Temple need a security system?
- Why did Robert attempt to shoot Danielle?
- Did Rousseau's science team really have the sickness?
- Why did Rousseau misremember parts of the events which happened to her after she arrived at the island?
- What has Ben done to keep the Oceanic 6 safe? Who has he been keeping them safe from?
- How did Charlotte know about the well that was there before The Orchid?
- Why was there a well that went down to the frozen donkey wheel?
- What happened to the old and decaying Orchid station?
- Why was it Locke who had to move the island? Why did Ben take his place?
- Why was Christian Shephard unable or unwilling to help Locke?
- What is Christian Shephard's manifestation? How can he appear in a previous time period?
- Why does the Oceanic 6 have to come back if moving the frozen donkey wheel stopped the flashes?
- Did Ben know that Eloise Hawking is Daniel Faraday's mother?
Favorites:
- "Guess what? I met a new friend for you in America. His name is Aaron." Sun
- "First a boat, then a helicopter. Next thing you know he'll be talking about a submarine." Montand
- "This is what happens when you bring women. She's probably off chasing a butterfly." Montand
- "Every time the sky lights up, we... move through time." Sawyer "[Speaking Korean at Sawyer, frustratedly. Then, in English, to Charlotte] Translate. Please, translate." Jin "[To Miles] You heard the man, translate." Sawyer "Uh, he's Korean. I’m from Encino." Miles
- "So, you speak any other languages?" Daniel "Just Klingon." Charlotte
- "I don't want any part of this. And if I see you, or him again, it will be extremely unpleasant for all of us." Sayid
- "You said we’d be there in 30 minutes." Sun "I didn’t account for traffic." Ben
- [Ben slams on the brakes and pulls the van over.] "What are you doing?" Jack "[Shouting frustratedly] What I'm doing is helping you! And if you had any idea what I’ve had to do to keep you safe--to keep your friends safe--then you’d never stop thanking me! You want to shoot me, then shoot me--but let’s get on with it! What's it going to be?" Ben
- Ben pulling the van over cracks me up every time. He's like "I'll turn this van around right now!"
- "Oh, oh turn it up! I love Geronimo Jackson." Charlotte
- "Thank God! What are the odds that we would end up in the same time as this thing?" Juliet
- [Another flash occurs, after which the Orchid station is absent] "You just had to say something." Sawyer
- "What exactly are you hoping to find?" Sawyer "A way off the island." Locke "You expecting a subway?" Sawyer
- "[Incredulous] How you know?" Jin
- The way that Daniel Dae Kim says "How you know?" cracks me up every time.
- "You sure you don't want us to lower you down?" Sawyer "What would be the fun in that?" Locke
- I love the way Terry O'Quinn smiles at Sawyer when he says "What would be the fun in that?"
- "I think you can let go of that now." Miles
- "I'm not allowed to have chocolate before dinner...mmm....[She dies.]" Charlotte
- "But Ben said he knew how to do it! He told me that I had to stay here and lead his people." Locke "Since when did listening to him get you anywhere worth a damn?" Christian
Notes:
- Come on, Sun, why couldn't you kidnap Aaron? That would have been so awesome.
- Jin never went on the trek to the radio tower. However, a group did go there in Through the Looking Glass.
- Montand is such a d, which made it easy to cheer when he was attacked by the Smoke Monster and his arm was ripped off. Also, it really grosses me out when his arm gets ripped off.
- There are a number of discrepancies in parts of Danielle Rousseau's story as told to Sayid is Solitary, Hurley in Numbers, and spoken about on the trek to the Black Rock in Exodus, Part 1.
- In Solitary, (1) Rousseau tells Sayid that the members of her crew got sick coming back from the Black Rock, but it appears they got sick after going to The Temple. It also appears that she may have had some sort of sickness herself. (2) Sayid asked her if she's seen other people on the island, and she said no, but she heard them in the jungle, that they whisper. This is incorrect also, as she clearly met Jin on the island. (3) She also told Sayid that she removed the firing pin from Robert's gun when he tried to shoot her. (4) Sayid fixed the music box that Robert gave her.
- Danielle tells Jin that her team departed for their expedition on November 15, 1988. She said she was sailing from Tahiti, of which she also told Sayid.
- In Numbers, (1) Rousseau told Hurley that her shipped picked up a transmission that was repeating the numbers, which clearly were being said by Hurley. (2) She told Hurley that the sickness came after they found the radio tower.
- In Exodus, Part 1, on the way to the Black Rock, (1) Rousseau said that Montand lost his arm in the dark territory. However, here we see that Montand lost his arm at The Temple. Not to mention, that she neglected to add that the Smoke Monster actually ripped Montand's arm off. (2) She also mentioned that the Monster was a security system, that it's purpose was to protect the island, which is partly what Robert told her in this episode, except that he said it was to protect The Temple.
- The reveals get a little annoying sometimes. How in the world could Jin not have immediately know that was Sawyer by his voice and Sawyer not have know it was Jin by seeing the back of him? I mean, come one, they were like three feet away from eachother!
- Charlotte saying "This place is death!" frightens the hell out of me.
- I'd like to see the episode where they never stop thanking Ben.
- Jin gives Locke his wedding ring to prove to Sun that he is dead, but Ben ends up using the wedding ring for the exact opposite reason, which is to prove to Sun that Jin is, in fact, alive.
- The scene where John Locke falls down the well, with the light emanating up through it, and Sawyer still holding the rope after everything disappears, then trying to dig, is incredibly well done.
- I remember not being all that impacted by Charlotte's death. I never really liked her. However, her final line is probably the weirdest final line for any character on LOST.
- The shot of John Locke's compound fractured leg is so frakking ridiculously disgusting.
- Christian Shephard tells John Locke that he misunderstood the instructions he gave him in Cabin Fever.
- I love that even Christian Shephard knows that everything Benjamin Linus has to say is a crock of shit.
- The music in the scene with Christian Shephard and John Locke is phenomenal.
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